Pit Boss Pro Series 4 V2 PBV4PS2

Thanks! Once you get a chance to get yours back, test, and add that antenna and report back I may do mine too. I wasn't having major issues but I did drop my bluetooth connection a few times and it would be nice to get better range in general. Heck I've got a cheap BT dual probe system I bought real cheap off amazon and that thing never loses connection. However, it's not behind a layer of sheet metal either. That antenna looks like super easy install. You will probably inspire everyone on this site who has this control board to add one in the future. (y)

Range,

Look at my prior post....I did not need to add the antenna, but just move it from under the board....works great now and got connected immediately.

But for those where this does not work.....I did check and the antenna I got with the cable length will fit from the control board....out the same hole of the plastic enclosure that the RTD travels....and through the firewall hole that the RTD travels to get mounted up behind the metal cover on the right hand side of the smoker. It would work if you drilled a hole behind the cover and mounted the antenna there....but like I said I don't need it anymore, because the antenna works now.

Amazon antenna
Here again is that antenna....note that this antenna is pretty long.....you probably don't need it that long, but the 35cm cable or longer would work great for this application.
 
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One last post for today.....I bought the following Cover from amazon and it fits the Series 4 Vertical version 2 perfectly, and it only costs about $30.

Cover for Series 4
 
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Thanks GeekChef. Glad to see you got the antenna thing worked out. I might pull panel and have a look in there at some point. May have to get that cover too. I cooked ribs on mine last weekend. Really didn't have any issues. Preheated and set at 225 and it held between 216 and 225, pulled and wrapped them about about the 2 hour mark and turned it up to 250. It held between 235 and 250 until they hit the temp I wanted and I pulled and sauced them and put them back in at 200 for a while and it held right on 200. I didn't take it up very high for the preheat and it seem to hold just under my target temps each time by 10-15 degrees sans the 200 setting. That kind of variance might upset others but not me I'm fine running 219 degrees if I set it at 225. It's much better than fighting to keep a solid temp in a stick burner. Furthermore, if you don't have any of these get a couple https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMQ3PS1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They work great. Pack it full of pellets, use a torch to light, let it burn for for 6-8 minutes then snuff it out and put it in the smoker. I just used one this last time but I liked it so well I ordered another one.
 
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Thanks GeekChef. Glad to see you got the antenna thing worked out. I might pull panel and have a look in there at some point. May have to get that cover too. I cooked ribs on mine last weekend. Really didn't have any issues. Preheated and set at 225 and it held between 216 and 225, pulled and wrapped them about about the 2 hour mark and turned it up to 250. It held between 235 and 250 until they hit the temp I wanted and I pulled and sauced them and put them back in at 200 for a while and it held right on 200. I didn't take it up very high for the preheat and it seem to hold just under my target temps each time by 10-15 degrees sans the 200 setting. That kind of variance might upset others but not me I'm fine running 219 degrees if I set it at 225. It's much better than fighting to keep a solid temp in a stick burner. Furthermore, if you don't have any of these get a couple https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FMQ3PS1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They work great. Pack it full of pellets, use a torch to light, let it burn for for 6-8 minutes then snuff it out and put it in the smoker. I just used one this last time but I liked it so well I ordered another one.
That's great news! Am planning on cooking this weekend. I definitely have a smoking tube! Been using it on my RecTec for a couple years...love the extra smoke. Can't wait to spend some time tuning it in.
 
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I'm having the same issue or worst. After talking and working with tech support, He confirmed my controller was bad. It's not sending out a strong enough signal for the app to work on my phone. Waiting for them to ship a new controller out, that works or been reflashed. Tech support hasn't heard of any back orders and will give me a tracking number once it has been shipped.
Stay tuned..
 
I'm having the same issue or worst. After talking and working with tech support, He confirmed my controller was bad. It's not sending out a strong enough signal for the app to work on my phone. Waiting for them to ship a new controller out, that works or been reflashed. Tech support hasn't heard of any back orders and will give me a tracking number once it has been shipped.
Stay tuned..
Did they say they have a new flash for the Series 4 from Lowes...? They sent mine back unflashed. If they did tell you that, can you tell me the name of the person that helped you...? They might be able to help me too.
 
Did they say they have a new flash for the Series 4 from Lowes...? They sent mine back unflashed. If they did tell you that, can you tell me the name of the person that helped you...? They might be able to help me too.
Her name is Robin she is in charge or ordering the new controller which she stated to make sure it was a updated one.
828-483-4686
 
Her name is Robin she is in charge or ordering the new controller which she stated to make sure it was a updated one.
828-483-4686
Oh.....so this is from the application side help. I have not called that phone number. I am wondering if this is just the latest flash for the ESP32 communications chip and not the controls chip that does the temperature increments. Am Anxious to find out if you are getting one with 10 deg increments for temperature control.
 
First Smoke attempt on brand new S4 v2. Closed the chimney down and held auger down for 15 secs twice. Set temp at 300. Time to 240 was 16 mins. 280 in 20 mins. Added boiling water and drip pans. Set to 225 and holding rock solid for an hour. Two racks of ribs going went on after 45 mins. Inside Thermometer showing right at 225 on 3rd rack.
After I added the cold meat, the smoker stayed at 225 on the probe, but measured 190 at the oven thermometer. Makes sense, since the meat was so cold. I turned it up to 250 and the oven thermometer drove up to 215 and holding steady. I assume that when the meat heats up more the internals will stabilize. Really love this controller...it is just as quick to recover as my RecTec. Love everything about it....except the setpoint graduations....really want 275...but nothing to really complain about.
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PLEASE HELP... Well, I too am having temp issues. I have the same smoker, Series 4 version 2, all black pellet smoker. Its been cold outside for sure but there the smoker will not go above 300 degrees or so. I turn on the smoker, push the button to take it to 350 just like the manual says and maybe it get to 300. It takes a good hour or two to get there. Then I turn the smoker down to 225 to cook and the temp goes down and keeps going down. Once it hits around 200 i have to put the temp back to 350 to get it to go up. WTF. Its brand new. Primer or Auger? I dont hit any primer. SHould I be doing that? What button should I be pushing?Also, P setting? There is no P setting that I see. The board is on the side. What am I doing wrong? Do I just return the darn thing and get something else? help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
PLEASE HELP... Well, I too am having temp issues. I have the same smoker, Series 4 version 2, all black pellet smoker. Its been cold outside for sure but there the smoker will not go above 300 degrees or so. I turn on the smoker, push the button to take it to 350 just like the manual says and maybe it get to 300. It takes a good hour or two to get there. Then I turn the smoker down to 225 to cook and the temp goes down and keeps going down. Once it hits around 200 i have to put the temp back to 350 to get it to go up. WTF. Its brand new. Primer or Auger? I dont hit any primer. SHould I be doing that? What button should I be pushing?Also, P setting? There is no P setting that I see. The board is on the side. What am I doing wrong? Do I just return the darn thing and get something else? help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
My suggestion, until Pitboss gets the controller issues worked out (for any of the pro series), this item is a no go for me personally. I'd return it (as I did) and look for something else.

I went to a camp chef smoke pro sg with wifi. 10 different smoke settings, 5 degree temp increments all the way up to 500. Gets to temps quick too. I think the longest it took was like 30 minutes to get all the way up to 500 to smoke/bake some pizzas the other day.

I haven't heard the same issue with the brunswick if you want a vertical still. Or the camp chef vertical is supposed to be really nice, except the $650 price tag.
 
PLEASE HELP... Well, I too am having temp issues. I have the same smoker, Series 4 version 2, all black pellet smoker. Its been cold outside for sure but there the smoker will not go above 300 degrees or so. I turn on the smoker, push the button to take it to 350 just like the manual says and maybe it get to 300. It takes a good hour or two to get there. Then I turn the smoker down to 225 to cook and the temp goes down and keeps going down. Once it hits around 200 i have to put the temp back to 350 to get it to go up. WTF. Its brand new. Primer or Auger? I dont hit any primer. SHould I be doing that? What button should I be pushing?Also, P setting? There is no P setting that I see. The board is on the side. What am I doing wrong? Do I just return the darn thing and get something else? help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Am working on a smoking temperature gradient test right now. Will report back info to help u later tonite. Stay tuned
 
PLEASE HELP... Well, I too am having temp issues. I have the same smoker, Series 4 version 2, all black pellet smoker. Its been cold outside for sure but there the smoker will not go above 300 degrees or so. I turn on the smoker, push the button to take it to 350 just like the manual says and maybe it get to 300. It takes a good hour or two to get there. Then I turn the smoker down to 225 to cook and the temp goes down and keeps going down. Once it hits around 200 i have to put the temp back to 350 to get it to go up. WTF. Its brand new. Primer or Auger? I dont hit any primer. SHould I be doing that? What button should I be pushing?Also, P setting? There is no P setting that I see. The board is on the side. What am I doing wrong? Do I just return the darn thing and get something else? help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Ok....am done with my testing....and here are my findings so far. Sorry for the long explanation....am doing this for a record for me anyway. This is how my smoker is responding....and these are just my thoughts.

I did a pan of chicken breasts....just so I could put something in the smoker....and WOW....I used butter pats on each breast and they were the juiciest chicken breasts I have ever had! Any way....I am going to chronicle this cook and then tell you what I believe is an answer to most of the issues....EXCEPT cooking over 300, which I have not done yet.

I put a temperature probe(called TP from this point) on each rack.....starting from the lowest.....I called them Bottom, 2nd, 3rd and Top. These were put on the right side middle of each rack, so it would be on the same side of the Smoker main probe. I set the chimney at 1/4" opening and it was about 40 degs outside. I set the smoker Setpoint to 300 degs and pressed the Auger button twice for 10 seconds each to get it moving. You can see from the picture below that the smoker did get to 280 degs, according to the TP on the rack at the same level of the RTD within about 16 mins...BUT the controller RTD still only said 215....will give my thoughts on that later. I changed the smoker setpoint to 250 at this time. I added water to the pan...the temperature dropped to 225(TP)....and it crept up closer to 250(TP)....with the RTD measuring 220 at that time. I added the chicken and changed the setpoint to 225....and within about 5 mins...both the TP and the RTD read 225. This process took about 40 mins total from the very start.

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Here are my thoughts on the TP vs the RTD differential. I believe the Smoker RTD reading is not only Extremely Dampened, but they are running a sort of time-based Moving Average that filters out large changes over time. This is why the actual temperature at the probe can be 50 degrees higher for short durations of time, but the RTD display shows much lower or higher. So in the beginning, the temperature of the RTD starts the average at 40 degs in my case....and so that low value takes time to ripple out of the filter.....this stops the controller from overshooting the setpoint.....but in this case.....it is WAY WAY too dampened....or slow to respond to actually reading until they get filtered out over time with successive larger measurements. If you go and search Mr. Garage on Youtube.....you will see a video on the latest update from Pit Boss for the 1150....and it removes this dampened filtered response pretty dramatically. This causes the RTD measurement to fluctuate and move around much more....which allows you to see the changes quicker...good or bad. I wish they would allow us a slow, medium or fast selection for the response...but I prefer the more sluggish responding RTD...now that I know how to compensate for it. The good news is that you can force more pellets with the Auger button and if you install an additional probe in the cooker....you can get the actual value of the temperature, so you can work it up to the level you wish at the speed you want to by adding more pellets.

On my first cook....I did ribs.....and I thought they were dry....and now I know why. If you look below, I have a picture of the four levels with TP's on each level that I did with the chicken cook. I tried to line up the text on the same row as where the TP was located. After the 40 mins of heat up, where the RTD and the TP on the 3rd rack equalized.....they stayed perfectly in sync at both 225 and later in the cook at 250. But the other racks were offset from the main RTD temperature....and I show the offset values on the right-hand side of the picture. The left shows the actual measurements at 225 and 250. I had set my smoker to 250 to do the ribs, because I thought that the smoker was running cooler....which it was not....and I moved them to the 2nd rack....which is +10 degs higher than the setpoint....I basically did a 3-2-1 at 260....instead of 225.

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Sorry for the long post....am just documenting my findings. One nice thing about the temperature offset is that I now can cook at other setpoints....other than the confining 250 and 300....because I know that at 250....I have a rack at 250....and at 265....and 260 and at 280. Same thing for 225....I have one at 225....and at 235 and 255 and 240. I really LOVE this smoker....so easy to clean up afterwards with the removable burn pot....and the racks that are removable. And it is HUGE compared to my Rec Tec.....it's a keep for me!

I will be doing further testing this weekend on higher temperatures....to see if the offset stays consistent....and how quickly I can get it up to 350 or 400 degs.

Smoke on...!
Steve
 
I just bought one on Saturday from Lowes. I was having the exact same issues. Brought it home, assembled it, primed the auger per directions. It fired up but wouldn't get hot, just warm. I thought maybe I didn't prime the auger enough so I forced fed it some more pellets by holding the prime button down a few more times throughout the heating up process. After a very, very, long time it finally got up to 350 and I left it there for about 45-60 minutes.

The next morning I tried again as I was planning on smoking a chicken on it for dinner. I had same issue on start-up. I messed around with it a couple of times an had to force feed it pellets again to get it up to temp. It would start up, reach about 130 degrees and then just fall on its face. It stayed around 130 for about an hour! Finally forced it up to temp by pressing the prime button a few times again and I did cook my chicken. Once it's was up to temp it would hold. Scratched my head a bit and slept on it. Decided today I would try once more to let it do the start-up per the manual and if it didn't work I would try one more thing. Well it didn't work. Same deal, it fired up, started warming up slowly and once it reached about 130 it just hung up there and then started losing temp dropping back to 119 before I gave up on that and powered it down. The auger was clear of debris and filled up with pellets and things seemed proper and functioning okay but it just seemed it would not drop pellets often enough to get the fire going strong enough to reach temp. On one start-up I even "hand primed" it by putting a handful of pellets directly in the fire pot before I powered it up. Didn't seem to matter much.

Only had one idea left up my sleeve and that was to fire it up per the manual but once the smoke cleared, let it run for about a minute with the door open and get to a roaring fire then close door and turn it up to HIGH. After letting it cool from the initial try this morning, unplugging it and plugging it back in that is exactly what I did. I fired it up and once the fire was roaring for about a minute I turned it up to HIGH and left it there until it hit 300. It was about 36 degree ambient temp and it hit 300 in about 30 minutes. Once it got it to temp it maintained well. In fact I was very impressed with how well it maintained temp even in some pretty windy conditions. I let it run for a few hours adjusting the temp down from 300, 250, 200, and finally 175. At each setting it held it's temp well. I powered it down, let it cool and did it once more. Same drill, fire up, run until fire gets a roar, then close door and turn up to HIGH. It worked again. It was about 30 mins from power on to 300 degrees in an ambient temp of about 50 or 55.

I couldn't care less if it goes above 300 frankly as I want to smoke not bake. I do wish it had a 275 setting though. That's where I like to do chicken but I can live with 250 as long as it will hold the temp. So, for those of you having issues with these things getting up to temp in the typical start-up mode you might try this procedure yourself. It seems to be working for me. When it's set to high the auger runs a lot which is what it needs to get a strong fire going in order to get hot. If I have any other issues later I'll post back here. Jury is still out on this one as far as I'm concerned. Yesterday I was ready to return it to Lowe's and had already started researching others but I'll give it a chance at this point. Hope this helps someone else. Seems the control panels on these things needs the firmware update Pit Boss is promising. A download through the app would be great but it doesn't sound like that is going to happen. They need to come up with a solution though and they also need to respond to posts on their website. COVID is not a legit excuse when they can respond VIA a laptop from just about anywhere
 
I just bought one on Saturday from Lowes. I was having the exact same issues. Brought it home, assembled it, primed the auger per directions. It fired up but wouldn't get hot, just warm. I thought maybe I didn't prime the auger enough so I forced fed it some more pellets by holding the prime button down a few more times throughout the heating up process. After a very, very, long time it finally got up to 350 and I left it there for about 45-60 minutes.

The next morning I tried again as I was planning on smoking a chicken on it for dinner. I had same issue on start-up. I messed around with it a couple of times an had to force feed it pellets again to get it up to temp. It would start up, reach about 130 degrees and then just fall on its face. It stayed around 130 for about an hour! Finally forced it up to temp by pressing the prime button a few times again and I did cook my chicken. Once it's was up to temp it would hold. Scratched my head a bit and slept on it. Decided today I would try once more to let it do the start-up per the manual and if it didn't work I would try one more thing. Well it didn't work. Same deal, it fired up, started warming up slowly and once it reached about 130 it just hung up there and then started losing temp dropping back to 119 before I gave up on that and powered it down. The auger was clear of debris and filled up with pellets and things seemed proper and functioning okay but it just seemed it would not drop pellets often enough to get the fire going strong enough to reach temp. On one start-up I even "hand primed" it by putting a handful of pellets directly in the fire pot before I powered it up. Didn't seem to matter much.

Only had one idea left up my sleeve and that was to fire it up per the manual but once the smoke cleared, let it run for about a minute with the door open and get to a roaring fire then close door and turn it up to HIGH. After letting it cool from the initial try this morning, unplugging it and plugging it back in that is exactly what I did. I fired it up and once the fire was roaring for about a minute I turned it up to HIGH and left it there until it hit 300. It was about 36 degree ambient temp and it hit 300 in about 30 minutes. Once it got it to temp it maintained well. In fact I was very impressed with how well it maintained temp even in some pretty windy conditions. I let it run for a few hours adjusting the temp down from 300, 250, 200, and finally 175. At each setting it held it's temp well. I powered it down, let it cool and did it once more. Same drill, fire up, run until fire gets a roar, then close door and turn up to HIGH. It worked again. It was about 30 mins from power on to 300 degrees in an ambient temp of about 50 or 55.

I couldn't care less if it goes above 300 frankly as I want to smoke not bake. I do wish it had a 275 setting though. That's where I like to do chicken but I can live with 250 as long as it will hold the temp. So, for those of you having issues with these things getting up to temp in the typical start-up mode you might try this procedure yourself. It seems to be working for me. When it's set to high the auger runs a lot which is what it needs to get a strong fire going in order to get hot. If I have any other issues later I'll post back here. Jury is still out on this one as far as I'm concerned. Yesterday I was ready to return it to Lowe's and had already started researching others but I'll give it a chance at this point. Hope this helps someone else. Seems the control panels on these things needs the firmware update Pit Boss is promising. A download through the app would be great but it doesn't sound like that is going to happen. They need to come up with a solution though and they also need to respond to posts on their website. COVID is not a legit excuse when they can respond VIA a laptop from just about anywhere.
When you say you primed the auger, what button were you pushing and how many times did you push it? I have the same smoker and when I turn mine on it does start up. Unfortunately it doesnt get up to 350 degrees nor does it hold temp.
 
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